1.21.5??

mbaxter

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Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.
 
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alextech01

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Your server should work fine for Bedrock 1.21.70 players if the server's on 1.21.4 and is using the latest build of Geyser. There's no solution yet for Java players on 1.21.5.
 

Gizmotron3000

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Your server should work fine for Bedrock 1.21.70 players if the server's on 1.21.4 and is using the latest build of Geyser. There's no solution yet for Java players on 1.21.5.
No I'm having the same issue. I tried viaversion and it didn't work. I know there's a spigot 1.21.5 out but I don't know how to replace my server with that one.
 

mbaxter

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We don't recommend running Spigot, especially this early in release cycle. Lots of potential bugs to iron out.

If you need help with geyser, see geyser's support. For viaversion, see viaversion's support. I know via has an update for 1.21.5, but can't speak for geyser.
 

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We don't recommend running Spigot, especially this early in release cycle. Lots of potential bugs to iron out.

If you need help with geyser, see geyser's support. For viaversion, see viaversion's support. I know via has an update for 1.21.5, but can't speak for geyser.
Don't they work hand in hand?
 

mbaxter

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ViaVersion and Geyser are separate plugins. Paper produces neither, but both run great on it.
 

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ViaVersion and Geyser are separate plugins. Paper produces neither, but both run great on
So I'll just have to wait till paper 1.21.5 comes out? or do you know how to change it to spigot cause I'm already running it on there for performance.
 

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ViaVersion would enable 1.21.5 players to play on your server. Geyser would enable bedrock players. I would not recommend running Spigot instead of those things, but if you wish to run it that is not something we provide support for.
 

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ViaVersion has jars to add protocol support for 1.21.5, however, you might need to pay for the early releases; Geyser apparently works for 1.21.4, however. We do not provide support for server software that isn't ours, noting that running your server on Spigot might cause damage to existing data on your server and used by plugins, you would really be better off waiting until Paper has releases, rather than running early experimental spigot builds.
 

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Thank you, I just messaged bedrock players of my server and apologized for the inconvenience. While you're hear, does hydraulic work? If you don't know it's a plugin that allows bedrock players to use mods.
 

alextech01

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Paper 1.21.4 + ViaVersion + the latest build of Geyser works fine for me for 1.21.70 players, but I don't think ViaVersion is making any difference since it doesn't support 1.21.5 yet. Not sure what's going on for you.
 

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Paper 1.21.4 + ViaVersion + the latest build of Geyser works fine for me for 1.21.70 players, but I don't think ViaVersion is making any difference since it doesn't support 1.21.5 yet. Not sure what's going on for you.
Do you have aditional plugins?
 

Gizmotron3000

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Paper 1.21.4 + ViaVersion + the latest build of Geyser works fine for me for 1.21.70 players, but I don't think ViaVersion is making any difference since it doesn't support 1.21.5 yet. Not sure what's going on for you.
Are you also talking about bedrock players on console?
 

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What? I was asking if the person with a working server had additional plugins.
And that person claimed ViaVersion doesn't have an update. Remember, this place isn't the place for support with bedrock clients or with viaversion. You can get better support directly from those folks! :)
 

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My plugin list:
BedWars-0.2.36.1.jar
CommandBlocks-v1.4.0.jar
CoreProtect-22.4.jar
EconomyShopGUI-6.11.1.jar
EssentialsX-2.21.0.jar
EssentialsXChat-2.21.0.jar
EssentialsXSpawn-2.21.0.jar
Geyser-Spigot.jar
LuckPerms-Bukkit-5.4.157.jar
PlaceholderAPI-2.11.6.jar
ProtocolLib.jar
PurpurExtras-1.34.5.jar
SkinsRestorer.jar
TAB v5.0.7.jar
VaultUnlocked-2.9.0.jar
ViaBackwards-5.2.1.jar
ViaVersion-5.2.1.jar
VoidWorldGenerator-1.3.2.jar
floodgate-spigot.jar
multiverse-core-4.3.14.jar
multiverse-inventories-4.2.6.jar
multiverse-netherportals-4.2.3.jar
multiverse-portals-4.2.3.jar
playeronlyplates-1.0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar
worldedit-bukkit-7.3.11.jar
worldguard-bukkit-7.0.13-dist.jar

I also have MCXboxBroadcast in Geyser's extension folder. Bedrock PC/mobile/console on 1.21.40-70 all works fine, but I needed the MCXboxBroadcast update for console to join. On https://geysermc.org/wiki/geyser/supported-versions/ it specifies that 1.21.40-70 works fine on a 1.21.4 server.
 

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Updates to Paper do not have any sort of estimate for when they release, ever. Any and all updates will arrive when they are ready, and the only thing to do is wait for them patiently along with everyone else.
It seems you are a "staff member"? Isn't kindness free to use? A new user asked about timing of release without being demanding, and this is how you respond? Saltiness is not required. I realize the buzz and demands made around version releases can be rude and taxing, however, this isn't the case in this instance. I'm a new user to Paper and your forum, and I wouldn't expect to be responded to like this. How 'bout make mention of a reasonable expectation of time for release but that it isn't something that can be guaranteed, or maybe how long the last updates took to make available? That would be useful for a new user to hear.
 

mbaxter

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It seems you are a "staff member"? Isn't kindness free to use? A new user asked about timing of release without being demanding, and this is how you respond? Saltiness is not required. I realize the buzz and demands made around version releases can be rude and taxing, however, this isn't the case in this instance. I'm a new user to Paper and your forum, and I wouldn't expect to be responded to like this. How 'bout make mention of a reasonable expectation of time for release but that it isn't something that can be guaranteed, or maybe how long the last updates took to make available? That would be useful for a new user to hear.
On our Discord, we have used a bot to repeat this message 409 times since 1.21.5 has come out. I appreciate your concern, but we have found this message best communicates expectations in a concise manner (users tend to stop reading by the 3rd sentence) and is easier than writing up a fresh response each time.

As for your thoughts on reasonable expectations:
  • This project is run by volunteers, and their time is variable.
  • Minecraft updates can greatly vary in terms of complexity, both in terms of actual internal changes and in terms of changes we have to make to adapt within our API.
  • We just recently migrated our tooling to be independent of Spigot (see the hard fork announcement) and are working out the kinks in our setup.
As a result of these various factors, it is never possible to provide an ETA (and especially with the current situation). Updates have been as quick as pretty much same-day and as long as many, many weeks. Your patience is appreciated.
 
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that is just a prewritten bot rely we have used for ages and not ones has somebody complained in the thousands of times it was used.
we will never give any indication of time, ever, since a) every update is different, so its impossible to predict based on last updates and b) people would complain even more if that estimate wasn't accurate. just wait patiently like everybody else. an announcement will be made when it is available.
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